In her final interview as first lady, Michelle Obama did not hold back on her true feelings about President-elect Donald Trump and the desolate climate she thinks the country is now in.
“We feel the difference now. See, now, we are feeling what not having hope feels like,” said Obama to talk show host Oprah Winfrey, according to CNN.
“Hope is necessary,” she continued. “[Barack] and I and so many believe that — what else do you have if you don’t have hope?”
The Pew Research Center has recently released a survey confirming that 38 percent of all Americans believe that Trump will be a “poor or terrible” president. Michelle implied that part of the reason Trump cannot inspire hope in the country is because he’s not a full-fledged adult.
“I feel Barack has been that for the nation in ways [a source of hope] people will come to appreciate,” she continued. “Having a grown-up in the White House who can say to you in times of crisis and turmoil, ‘Hey, it’s going to be okay. Let’s remember the good things that we have.'”
Her comments were released Dec. 16, as part of a teaser for a full-length interview set to air on Oprah Winfrey’s network Dec. 21. Pundits expect her to speak more about the 2016 election cycle, and her thoughts on a Trump win.
This isn’t the first time she has thrown insults at the president-elect. During the campaign, BBC reports that many accused Obama of spending too much time campaigning for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. In a number of speeches, the first lady denounced Trump’s “hateful language” and called on millennials, women, and minorities to rally behind the Democratic party.
Now, after Trump’s win, she says that she hasn’t changed her mind about the president-elect, but she and her husband will still do their best to ensure a smooth transition.
“Anything that I felt about the election I said and I stand by,” she said, according to CNN. “[But] this is our democracy, and this is how it works. We are ready to work with the next administration and make sure they are as successful as they can be. Because that’s what’s best for this country.”
Sources: CNN (2), BBC / Photo credit: DFID/Flickr